SDRTrunk - Antenna, Gain, Coax, Oh My...

K0MSM

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Greetings all!

(Shoutout to @mtindor who's been helping me along with this project...)

I successfully have SDRTrunk up and running, and I'm not sure how I got by without it for so long. Here's the situation I find myself in now...

Some of you may have seen a thread where I was trying to figure out why I wasn't able to maintain a lock on my own county's system while I could easily see and maintain locks on other systems. Frustrating indeed! Following the advice of several folks in the forums, I picked up an Omni-X antenna and an Electroline EDA-2400 amplified splitter. The Omni-X is mounted at the peak of my roof, and I'm using TWS-400 coax between the antenna and the amplifier.

With that set up, I was easily able to get a nice lock on my county's P25 system, and my SDS-200 almost continually had 4 bars of signal strength on the display. SDRTrunk consistently showed between -30 and -11 of signal strength as well. BUT - I was still getting some sort of interference that would disrupt SDRTrunk's lock on the P25 system. Sometimes for 15-30 minutes even!

Until today, the Omni-X and the TWS-400 stopped outside the house, where I brought the signal in on some RG-8X to the amplifier. Just a temporary situation until I brought the TWS-400 all the way inside. Seeing as it was a nice day, I figured it was time to finish the project. I disconnected the TWS-400 from the RG-8X and connected the RG-8X back up to the Discone, which is where it's always been connected. I then ran the TWS-400 inside. Keep in mind that at this point, the amplifier is connected to the Discone. Meaning that everything inside is using that as the antenna.

As I continued to bring the TWS-400 inside and to my shack, I noticed that SDRTrunk hadn't gone offline at all since making the switch. The odd "pulsing" interference I was used to seeing was no longer present. The SDS-200 wasn't happy, as it was only seeing a signal of maybe 1 bar. Sometimes, every so often 2, but for the most part, it was a 1 bar connection. Signal strength on SDRTrunk never gets higher than around -30 or so. But I haven't lost lock once! It's been rock solid!

Now in the process of all of this fun & excitement, I played around with the amp, mixer, and gain controls on SDRTrunk. I could never seem to find just the right setting to make things happy - clearly evident by the fact that I was still losing lock. However, maybe I stumbled onto a good setting for using the Discone?

I should also mention that I'm only about 1/4 mile away from a primary Union Pacific radio site. When they key up on that site, the VHF side of my scanners gets de-sensed. I know there is more than just VHF on that tower, though. Since I started typing this, and thinking back on the day, I don't recall hearing any traffic at all on the UP system other than the automated detector at mile 219.7 - maybe the site is offline for some reason? Could that be what's causing my interference?

At this point, I'm almost afraid to go back on the Omni-X. I'm going to, just to see what happens. But this is really making my head hurt a little bit.

Sean
 

K0MSM

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I connected the Omin-X, and as I thought might happen, things stopped working correctly.

For reference - the SDRTrunk settings on the Discone are Manual / 13 (Mixer ) / 334 (LNA) / 278 (VGA

This maintains a perfect lock on my local P25 site. The signal strength isn't great, but it also doesn't lose lock.

Switching to the Omni-X... and I can't find any sort of setting that keeps it locked. I've tried high LNA / Low VGA. And vice-versa. I've changed the Mixer setting. I've taken the master off of Manual and tried changing that setting. I've tried setting the LNA to automatic. Nothing seems to be the "sweet spot" for maintaining a lock using the Omni-X.

So - if any of you gurus out there have a really good handle on fine-tuning the setting with SDRTrunk, I'd love to chat with you. That Omni-X seems like a nice antenna, and it's mounted higher than any other antenna I use. I guess it's working too good. Or something.

Sean
 

dave3825

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Omni X is an awesome antenna. Are all of your coax connections secure? Is the lite on the eda2800 on and getting power?


Switching to the Omni-X... and I can't find any sort of setting that keeps it locked. I've tried high LNA / Low VGA. And vice-versa. I've changed the Mixer setting. I've taken the master off of Manual and tried changing that setting. I've tried setting the LNA to automatic. Nothing seems to be the "sweet spot" for maintaining a lock using the Omni-X.

So - if any of you gurus out there have a really good handle on fine-tuning the setting with SDRTrunk, I'd love to chat with you. That Omni-X seems like a nice antenna, and it's mounted higher than any other antenna I use. I guess it's working too good. Or something.

What dongle are you using? These settings may or may not show for you but if they are, try first 2 and then play with the master slider. Takes the rest of the individual settings out of the equation.


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